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A Revolution in Entertainment: IRL Podcasting
In this episode of the Business Pulse podcast, host Candice Jarrett (co-founder of the tech startup XKOVA) speaks with Jeff Revilla, founder of Poduty, a unique venue that combines live theater experiences with podcasting.
The conversation explores the energy of live podcasting, the importance of community engagement, and the innovative concept of the 'infinite seat theater.' Jeff emphasizes the significance of being resourceful in business and offers valuable advice for aspiring podcasters, including how to find their niche and the potential for multiple income streams.
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welcome to the business pulse podcast my
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name is Candice Jarrett today we'll be
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talking to Jeff Revilla founder of Poduty a
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groundbreaking venue which blends
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experience of going to a live theater
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with digital podcasting Poduty is located
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just outside downtown Pittsburgh we'll
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dive into the intersection of Technology
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entertainment and Live Events right here
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in episode 5 this is the business pulse
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tools and stories to inspire Success
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Through conversation a with leading
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business owners startup Founders and
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Jeff it's so nice to have you here today
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oh thank you so much for having me I'm
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looking forward to the next half hour
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here me too first I want to say look at
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that gorgeous venue behind you now
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people who are in the listening audience
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like if you're listening on on Spotify
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or apple podcast you won't be able to
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see but it is gorgeous it is gorgeous
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just the lights the the the saturated
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red curtain the big you know stage
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tressing I love the stage design it's
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just absolutely gorgeous yeah it's just
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something that was stuck in my head for
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about seven years and you to see it come
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alive and you know we just opened in
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June and the feedback just like your
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first reaction your first impression
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seeing it here now that's the typical
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reaction that I get like how can this
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little space pack so much into it and
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it's just great seeing people you know
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start to see the vision that I've been
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carrying around for so long it's a it's
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a beautiful use of the space so I
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actually I want to jump in even to the
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theater design and stuff but but let's
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back up I want to hear the aha moment
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like can you take us back to the moment
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where you decided that you were going to
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create a venue in like in real life but
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dedicated to live podcasting yeah it's a
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little bit of a story so give me just a
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little bit of a backstory take you back
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to 2015 if we go back to 2015 there was
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a platform called blab and some of us
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remember it was one of the first four in
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thebox live streaming services and you
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could go live and blab had this amazing
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social element and it's at that time I
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launched My Trivia show in 2015 I would
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go live and all of a sudden this room
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would have 30 people Converge on it to
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hang out play Live trivia you could do
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all kinds of different commands to make
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the screen shake or make it snow on the
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screen and you could give props to
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different people there's this great
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Community element and blab ended up
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growing faster than they could keep up
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with and ended up folding in like 2017
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and for those of us who were there it
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left this giant hole of of what can we
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do and we all tried different things
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like Google Hangouts and YouTube live
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and appearing was a big one hoop in was
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a big one and they never they never
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really recreated that Community platform
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and it really showed us that doing a
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live podcast could could be so much more
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than just you know oneon-one or a panel
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discussion you could really add all
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these elements into it and I started to
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do I started to have this idea of what
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if I didn't have to wait for blab you
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know to come to me what if I could take
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that anywhere and so my first design and
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I have pictures of it I I'll send them
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to you if you if you want to publish the
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photos but I designed a theater that
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would fit in my sedan I called it
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theater anywhere and I had speakers I
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had the mixing board I had a Podium that
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I would wheel around like the different
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and I thought if I could just show up at
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a park at a a pavilion and there a
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walking trail and just interview people
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and hang out and just take the show to
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the public that would be so much fun and
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so amazing and I did that and I met with
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a friend who was just opened a coffee
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shop and he's like why don't we do this
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we'll do free tacos and we'll do your
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live shows and I was like oh my this is
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perfect and we definitely sign up for
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that we scheduled it for March 30th
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2020 the timing wasn't spectacular
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timing bad timing so we you had me at
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Cafe with free tacos Cafe with free
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Tacos yeah and we ended up cancelling
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and we put it on the back burner but I I
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thought about okay I want to do these
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live performances but what if I'm you
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know what if I just move this to my
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basement because we're kind of we're all
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isolated now we're quarantining in our
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houses I was like well if I had a little
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theater in my basement then people could
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just come here we'll hang out it'll be a
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hang and but I'm I'm kind of limited by
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capacity and so I came up with this idea
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called the infinite seat theater and
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back in 2020 I presented this at podfest
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uh Origins as it was a virtual
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conference it's based out of Orlando and
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the feedback was amazing they're like
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whoa this infinite SE theater what if
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you're not you know would didn't matter
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what size space you were in you could
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broadcast that to anybody so your
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capacity isn't Limited
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like my theater that you're looking at
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behind me has 40 seats but I'm not
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limited to 40 tickets because I can
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broadcast that to thousands of people so
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now my little $800 a month theater
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that's my that's my rent spoiler alert
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it's really I got a good price on it
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that's a great
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deal it's a you know that overhead I can
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I can sell as many tickets as Madison
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Square Garden
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or a a a midsize theater in a large city
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so I'm not limited my I can scale
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exponentially fast I can pivot fast I
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can move faster than a giant you know
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hotel if you want to run a conference
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out of a hotel you got to hire help you
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got to hire their sound people you have
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to hire most likely where Pittsburgh so
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we always support the union workers that
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come in they do the move in move outs
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they do the stage you got to hire all
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these people what if I had it all set up
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you come in you do your show it's
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plug-and playay we broadcast it we sell
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tickets and you know we are are this
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little tiny box but we have the capacity
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to be huge infinite that and that
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infinite seat theater that Concept in
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2020 that was really where the sparked
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this idea that's amazing wow been a
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longer story than you were bargaining
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for it I loved it it was fantastic uh I
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I love the idea of you starting with
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this vision of wanting to like take it
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out to the streets and like you know be
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out with the people but then covid
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happened and then you got shut inside
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but then you're like you didn't give up
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on it anyway you're like how can I
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reinvent this stream to like make it
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work so pudi how did you come up with
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that
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name it's obviously you're coming up
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with business names you're trying
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different things working different
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things and we I kept putting words
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together I I always like you know
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podcasting you know and I wanted pod to
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be part of it because that that's easy
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for people to associate with and then
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I'm on a mission right I'm trying to
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bring live podcasting the people you
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know your mission or it's my duty to
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bring podcast so it's a portmanto of the
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word podcasting and the word duty but
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it's also makes people smile every time
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they say the word PTI so this is a fun
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place it's you know I want to have fun I
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want people to laugh and come here I
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want to feel safe I want to be like you
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know like a like when you were a kid on
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the playground and somebody said you
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know maybe a little bit of a bad word
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and you chuckled a little bit like ha
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pudy gives you that fun you know playful
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place and that's what this is this is a
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place for creators to come be themselves
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the stage is open to everybody if you
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have an idea and you want to create
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something you are totally welcome here
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and if you say the name you know you
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tell maybe you tell your friends or
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family where you'll be at tonight I'm
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going be at the pudy Podcast Theater
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they might say the what what what and
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it's fun it's just and that's and I love
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that it came you know it was short it
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was fun to say and it's only six letters
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so to get a you know one of my one of my
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biggest accomplishments in life will be
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I bought a six-letter domain name in
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2020 you know it's one letter less than
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Netflix my joke is that's true are you
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gonna type seven letters to go to
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Netflix I don't think so you'll probably
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type six letters because it's faster to
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go to go
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p.com so I I'm definitely going to take
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you up on your offer about those early
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theater designs I would I would love to
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um you know to post them so yeah
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afterward I'll I'll give you my email
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and then we can connect on that and then
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uh people can go to our you know go to
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our social media and check it out
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because people need to see the after
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like looking at it right now and it's so
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beautiful I know some people will be
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listening so if you're listening head on
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over to the social media there's links
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in the description and then you'll get
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to to see the before and after because
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it's it's lovely so I want to talk to
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you about the performances themselves
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and the impact that doing a podcast in
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front of a live audience has do you when
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you see your podcasters essentially
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performing like putting on their show do
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you feel that they have a different
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energy when there are other people in
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the room as opposed to if it was just
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like them in a microphone yeah not only
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are they you know not only are they
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excited to be in the room and present
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their podcast but there's two other
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parts of this that I uncovered after the
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first one isn't a big secret anybody
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who's been on stage you know that when
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you come off of the stage you are Juiced
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like you are so pumped up is one of the
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greatest feelings the greatest rushes
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coming off stage so so now they're you
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know they they get that energy but the
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other thing is a lot of podcasters you
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know like myself I was in my basement
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for a while doing a trivia show and I
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didn't get out other than connecting
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with people virtually but I realized
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when you can say I'll be on the main
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stage at or come see me excuse me come
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see me on the main stage at the bedy
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nights at 900 PM as a local small
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independent podcaster when you get that
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credibility of getting to perform on a
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main stage in front of people you're
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audio audience you know people who are
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downloading your they're going to hear
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that that that adds a whole Le level of
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credibility to your show to you as a
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host to your podcast and your fans get
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excited for you too and that energy
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carries to the stage where you know you
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got you have all a range of characters
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you have some people who take a little
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bit time to warm up and they're a little
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bit nervous but once they get going and
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once the interaction happens and then
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once they get off stage they're sold you
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know for life live pod casting is
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something that it's different than any
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other type of podcasting you've done
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before and it it just hooks you in and
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it's it's the way you want to do it
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going forward actually that's awesome so
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I actually I want to talk to you about
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the type of people who perform at your
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theater so what kind of shows are they
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doing and like and do the audience like
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have a particular favorite like style of
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show like you mentioned that you do the
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trivia shows yeah the trivia shows are
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great they play well both uh in person
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and virtually you can on your phone
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whether you're in the theater you could
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be playing somebody in Portland Main or
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Portland Oregon and we have a
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leaderboard so it you know encourages
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this competition and the stage isn't you
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know I my focus and my love is
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podcasting but I built this stage to be
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multi-purpose so we've done fundraisers
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we did a great fundraiser for local
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animal shelters about a month and a half
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ago where another it was Loosely based
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on trivia and it was We Made It
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competitive whereas you know every every
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shelter was guaranteed 20% of the door
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and then whoever won the competition got
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the other 20% so one shelter got 40% and
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the other three got 20% so we we made
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that a little bit of competitive event
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and people had a great time raising
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money for a great cause we've done
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festivals we've done 12h hour live
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streams where one of the things one of
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the features of this is just because I'm
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on stage doesn't mean my guest or or
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that you have to be on stage with me you
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can interview somebody in in Oklahoma or
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Florida while you're on the stage they
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can interact with the audience the
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people watching at home can interact by
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leaving comments and they can even pop
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up on stage with us so you during that
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12-hour Festival we had people from all
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over the world
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Canada and they were coming in and out
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popping in running their shows and we
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were holding it all down here in the
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outside of Pittsburgh so really we can
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accommodate anything that anybody's come
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to me so far this stage is capable of
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handling that style of show I was
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actually going to ask uh so I feel that
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what you're doing is so unique because
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people who podcast from you know as you
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said like all over the United States I
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mean if they wanted to connect with
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their audience in your area I mean would
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you be like a stop on like a podcast
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tour I mean have you had anybody reach
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out to you about that yet I know you
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guys are still like kind of new yeah
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that's my dream you we did just open in
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June but my dream is that what you're
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seeing now is we were talking a little
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bit about you know filling up theaters
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and Arenas and people who podcast in the
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home this is this middle space this is
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like a third space a third place that's
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in between you know isolation at your
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home and filling up Arenas so how do we
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get to how do we bridge that Gap well I
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think places like this are going to
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start popping up more and more I I
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realized I'm a little bit early to this
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game and I think as we get into a year A
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two years from now this is going to be a
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pretty normal thing in every City just
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like music venues have smaller clubs
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that you know people tour and they go
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through town to town they play you know
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these 200 300 seat clubs the smaller
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clubs you're going to see that same type
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of Club environment for podcasting in
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one two three years and my goal is we
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all start to connect and talk to each
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other I I love talking about what I
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built I love sharing exactly how I did
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it I'll tell anybody like hey this is
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what I'm doing here's how you do it if
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you want to open one in Cleveland or
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Tulsa that's great because now I have
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two other stops that I can plug in
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podcasters to and we can start making
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tours around the country and probably
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when you look at the math of the at what
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you can actually do with a live show
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that could actually support you a single
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person who hosts their own show or a
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pair of people who host their own show
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you can make it from town to town have a
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great little vacation meet some of your
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fans make a couple bucks and and do a
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little tour and that's what I that's
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what I really see coming down the road
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in the few years I mean comedians do it
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all the time right I mean it's it's
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really a similar idea like they're just
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them and a microphone and an audience
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you know but this is just a different
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type of content and a different type of
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audience like because the audience has
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different expectations of what they're
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going to see that's so fascinating the
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idea of touring as a podcast in real
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life I mean because you can still every
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show reach your regular audience who is
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listening from their car in San
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Francisco or you know their living room
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in Oklahoma or wherever they are but you
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know you can physically be there also
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with you know a handful of your your
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fans really yeah and we record the show
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and one of my I don't take any ownership
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over the recording I give that back to
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the show for them to release as a future
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episode so wow not only can they you
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know make a couple bucks selling tickets
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but they don't have to do all the
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recording anymore I'll do the recording
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they get the episode back they could
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theoretically sell ads on their their
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audio file that they're going to release
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as their audio podcast so now they can
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they can start to make multiple streams
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of income from the same show if if you
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have a ticket sales you bring your own
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merch you can sell ads on the tickets
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you could even sell spot on this you
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want put a banner on the stage you you
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could have a show sponsor then you get
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the audio you can plug in your audio ads
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you could do some host red ads and then
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you can distribute that and some podcast
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hosts will place ads for you or or some
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networks will place ads for you all of a
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sudden you have a you have a nice little
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section little stream of income from one
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single content one single piece of
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content that you've
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created that's fantastic and I want to
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say that I think that's smart on two
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ways one it's very generous of you to do
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that for the people like to help lift
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them up as they come through your Venue
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and two I think it's really smart from
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your perspective as a growth hack you
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know since you are new like getting the
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word out by you supporting these
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podcasters and helping them grow their
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audiences it only helps uh Duty because
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it helps get the get the word out so the
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I love that phrase Rising Tides raise
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All Ships I really do believe that's
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true it is really I say that all the
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time and and my goal is you know yes a
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lot of us are smaller shows a lot of
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shows come through here I know they're
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going to sell five or 10 tickets and
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that's okay you know maybe that's a
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Monday or a Tuesday show my goal is to
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help them you know bring people in I say
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I say I'm trying to get butts and seats
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that's all I care about I don't care how
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many people come in like just get some
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people in here let's see what you can do
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let's work through what you recorded and
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see if next time can we get the 15
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tickets right let's can we grow and grow
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and eventually my goal is to help you
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get to a 100 or 200 tickets and the way
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we do it at the end of the night we just
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split the door 50/50 but as you grow and
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grow my goal is to shift that percentage
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in your favor so that it's maybe a 6040
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7030 my my goal is to be fair to the
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content creator and fair to the house
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you're you're really in a great
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situation because uh you have very
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little overhead at which for such a
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beautiful space I mean that's you got
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very lucky with that well I I also spent
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two years trying to find the right space
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I looked at over 40
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properties I was trying to get in and
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out of different places and nothing
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worked till I found this I walked into
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here and I knew right away and there's
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a sorry I had a little cough there
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that's there's a making of video where
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you can see what the space looked like
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before I took it over and I'll share
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that link with you too if you want to
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take a look at it but oh yeah we came in
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and took about 30 days we flipped this
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around I had been buying all the pieces
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for about 18 months I had the stage was
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in my garage these chairs I actually
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bought from a Catholic school for $2 a
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piece so I you know my a lot of things I
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I I also bought a lot of stuff from like
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Amazon auctions so I really furnished
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this whole place for you know maybe
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$2,000 amazing just because I did it
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over time and I and I you know I sprung
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on deals when I found them and that that
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really helped keep cost down and when I
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came in here and I found out about the
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rent and the landlord is just amazing
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and like every it was the right
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relationship the right place the right
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time and I jumped on it like within 10
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minutes I told him this is the place I
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went that's that's
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amazing you know I think that you
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brought up such a great point is I think
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business owners one timing is important
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and two being Scrappy you know like you
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made something incredible with not much
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and I think a lot of people who are
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starting a business maybe for the first
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time think that they need to go out and
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buy the best thing they need to spend
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all this money on the best thing but
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really what you need is to you know be
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Scrappy essentially and to to keep your
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cost down that way you can keep your
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cost down for your customer while still
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delivering them you know the best
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products you can like and then just grow
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over time yeah I mean I knew going into
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this and I budgeted for six to nine
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months of Runway like we opened in June
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and I'm doing four five six events a
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month my goal was to get to two three
529
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four events a week but I knew it's going
530
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to take time not only to find podcasters
531
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who are ready to move you know from home
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Studios and basement podcasting to a
533
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main stage I gotta I have to build that
534
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up but I also have to teach the public
535
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:59,159
hey this is a new form of entertainment
536
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,559
this is something different than you're
537
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used to you may think of podcasting as
538
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something you do on your morning commute
539
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,080
maybe while you're working out but
540
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,840
here's a here's a night out you know
541
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some my shows are familyfriendly you can
542
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,520
come play trivia you don't have to worry
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00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:15,679
about language or uh you know there's no
544
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alcohol or food sales here we have like
545
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like a concession stand like snacks and
546
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:23,760
water and stuff but it's a it's it's an
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affordable safe fun third place for
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families to go you know in my case you
549
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know they can play trivia they all have
550
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their own phones can all play against
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each other and like you know talk a
552
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little bit of trash sometimes you hear
553
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that in the audience and it's fun it's
554
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it's a good time also which happens at
555
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comedy shows so I really feel that it is
556
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a just what you said you hit the nail on
557
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the head a new form of
558
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entertainment yeah so how has the
559
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,039
community reacted to it the community
560
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:53,039
has been phenomenal they I've had uh so
561
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much press already the local magazine
562
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put me on the cover of of the ma
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magazine I've had the the local paper
564
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has come in done a big I got a cover
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story on like their lifestyle page we do
566
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these night markets I'm I'm part of them
567
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,880
they're put on by the township and
568
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they're they let me open up I can come
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out on the sidewalk and it's a big
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Festival where they bring in Street
571
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vendors and food vendors and crafters
572
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and I'm and I'm part of that I I get to
573
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give tours and show off the place and
574
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they're just they're so receptive of
575
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what I'm doing they're so excited what
576
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we're doing I even the last for
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Halloween and for Christmas I had a
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local artist paint the windows so they
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I'm getting I'm getting them talking
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about the place because they see the
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local artist and we actually did like a
582
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big Beetlejuice mural the sandworm from
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Beetlejuice for Halloween and then we
584
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have Santa like kind of dabbing and like
585
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,360
snow and two snowmen podcasting on the
586
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window it's happy happy holidays so
587
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we're doing we're you know incorporating
588
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the community and just trying to you
589
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know be a fun positive place you know
590
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we're in the Rust Belt too so you know a
591
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lot of these small towns in Western PA
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they have their Heyday and now there a
593
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lot of these are revitalizing and coming
594
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back and we're we're part of that
595
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revitalization I couldn't be prouder
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that's wonderful oh I'm so happy to hear
597
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,679
that on every level I love that you're
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getting the community involved I love
599
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that you're doing these like
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family-friendly things and fun things
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around the holidays and what you said
602
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earlier about the animal shelters I mean
603
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you're just you're just you're just
604
00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:27,960
hitting all of the great points you
605
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you've built something so beautiful and
606
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amazing and and I I really hope that
607
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more people can hear about it and that
608
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you know every seat is jammed and that
609
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you're at you're you're at
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capacity every night that's I think it's
611
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you know you have such a great attitude
612
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and you've built something so beautiful
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with almost nothing and so I I'm very
614
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,480
excited to check in with you like a year
615
00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:51,600
from now to see like how you've grown oh
616
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I'd love to give you an update that
617
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would be great i' like to see where I am
618
00:22:53,159 --> 00:22:57,880
too if only we could have those those
619
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future goggles to like you know look and
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see but I think it's going to be amazing
621
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and fantastic so can we give advice to
622
00:23:02,679 --> 00:23:07,720
people who do not have a podcast yet and
623
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,240
maybe who aren't local to your area but
624
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,799
who are just starting a podcast for the
625
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,919
first time and want to learn how to grow
626
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:17,000
yeah I'll tell you my biggest hangup was
627
00:23:14,919 --> 00:23:19,240
I didn't want to hear my voice I didn't
628
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,880
like the way I sounded I didn't like
629
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,080
being recorded I didn't even like being
630
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:26,679
on video and that hung that was a hangup
631
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,400
for me for many years until I realized
632
00:23:26,679 --> 00:23:31,000
one little phrase and I say it all the
633
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time and I don't mean it as a negative
634
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,840
thing I don't mean it to diminish what
635
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,559
you're trying to accomplish but the
636
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:41,360
truth is no one cares and I'm the only
637
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:42,840
one who's hung up on me when I say I
638
00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:47,080
don't want to hear my voice I don't want
639
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:49,480
to see myself on camera that 100% is me
640
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,400
and I know from so many people that's
641
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,320
the thing that hangs up hangs them up
642
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,760
from starting a podcast is they're just
643
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,640
intimidated they don't want to get on
644
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,720
camera they don't want to be on the
645
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,039
microphone and when I tell tell them
646
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,360
like listen you're the only one who's
647
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:05,000
thinking about that other people have to
648
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:07,919
get their kids to soccer practice they
649
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,799
have bills to pay for whatever reason
650
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:13,039
they chose to listen to you for a half
651
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:15,640
an hour they chose you so all you need
652
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:17,880
to do is deliver on that half an hour to
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00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,080
deliver entertainment deliver education
654
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,720
information whatever they wanted they're
655
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,400
there for that that's why they're there
656
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,640
don't let that hang you up don't let
657
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,240
that push you push you down I can't even
658
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,159
tell you how many S I get complimented
659
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,200
on my voice which I don't even
660
00:24:31,159 --> 00:24:35,919
understand so you have a great voice for
661
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,600
podcasting you really do and I and I
662
00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:39,320
didn't know that and I thought I was
663
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120
terrible and why would listen somebody
664
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,000
listen to somebody from Pittsburgh with
665
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:45,039
a speech impediment who runs all his
666
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,320
words together into one sentence you
667
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:52,000
know I I just didn't know that and I I
668
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,679
all those things were on me and I I know
669
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,279
that probably half the people who are on
670
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:59,200
the fence about starting a podcast those
671
00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:01,679
are the same feelings they have inside
672
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,840
and I promise you you're the only one if
673
00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:05,480
you make a mistake you're the only one
674
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,840
who knows on camera that you made a
675
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,919
mistake if you pronounce the word wrong
676
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,799
like I just did there nobody is going to
677
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:14,480
judge you or call you or pen you an
678
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:17,000
angry letter they just they're there for
679
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,000
youc because you're delivering something
680
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,799
that they need at the time whether it's
681
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,279
just you know a trivia show is a break
682
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:25,840
for half an hour to just be silly and
683
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:27,760
answer questions together that's they're
684
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,320
there for you you just have to deliver
685
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,440
and you should be so grateful that they
686
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,880
came to see you I agree with that I
687
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,200
think that uh you know if you have one
688
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,279
listener or you have a million listeners
689
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,240
you should give the same show you know
690
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,880
because it should always be you care
691
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,520
about the person that spent their time
692
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:49,080
to listen to you so 100% every time I
693
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,880
think that's important yeah thousand and
694
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,080
you know there is a relationship that
695
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,559
does get built and and that and there is
696
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,000
some level of caring but just you know
697
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,760
the only things that are holding you
698
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,240
back or things that you're you're
699
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,679
thinking about and you are the only one
700
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,399
thinking about it that that I promise
701
00:26:04,679 --> 00:26:10,039
you and you'll you'll real once you
702
00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:12,480
realize that that'll set you free to do
703
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:14,720
whatever you want to do nothing will
704
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,559
hold you back once you realize okay
705
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,039
that's just something I think about
706
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:20,520
nobody else is thinking about that I can
707
00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:22,559
move on now I'm free to do that I think
708
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,279
that's wonderful advice I I I think that
709
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,919
especially in today's day and age with
710
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:28,000
social media it is very easy for people
711
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:30,399
to get self-conscious because they see
712
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,640
like a curated image of other people's
713
00:26:30,399 --> 00:26:34,039
like lives like oh this is so perfect
714
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,919
again going back to what I said about
715
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,559
the business owners that they feel like
716
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:39,720
I can't start my business unless I can
717
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,640
afford to have this really fancy thing
718
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,279
but that's not true you can start now
719
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,440
you can start now with what you've got
720
00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:49,399
and then build on and and grow but to
721
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,799
your point you have to just have that
722
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:54,559
bravery to put yourself out there and to
723
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:56,279
just say okay you know I'm just going to
724
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:59,279
not be self-conscious about this and I'm
725
00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,720
just going to use my voice yeah and and
726
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:03,799
just and you also mentioned on the
727
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:06,200
financial side too bootstrap everything
728
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:07,679
like whatever you don't need the
729
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,799
state-of-the-art stuff I know that I'm
730
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:11,679
looking at these cameras that I want to
731
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:13,880
get PTZ cameras which are the ones that
732
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:15,640
kind of turn and they're called pan tilt
733
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,320
and zoom they you can control them with
734
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,320
a joystick that's a big dream of mine
735
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,440
right now I just have six stationary
736
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,880
cameras that's small enough space that I
737
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,679
can cover everything they're not the
738
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,760
cameras I want but they're the cameras
739
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:29,159
that I could afford when I opened and
740
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,480
that was I was comfortable with
741
00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:33,720
budgeting so that I could have the six
742
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,760
to n month runways for me the runway was
743
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,240
more important than having the best
744
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,399
things all at once like I could have had
745
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,399
a bigger stage or you know I could even
746
00:27:41,399 --> 00:27:45,960
bought a bigger trust to put more lights
747
00:27:43,399 --> 00:27:49,440
on but I spent $30 those lights that you
748
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,720
see total were $30 I got on an auction
749
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,799
so I I waited and I pounced when the
750
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,200
when the offers and the deals were there
751
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:58,679
so that I could stretch that so I can
752
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,679
achieve my goal my dream you two years
753
00:27:58,679 --> 00:28:03,159
from now I'll still be in business and
754
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:05,000
not worrying about the day-to-day
755
00:28:03,159 --> 00:28:07,480
expenses the day-to-day costs because I
756
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,120
didn't spend it all upfront that's so
757
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,399
smart so when you talked about the
758
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:13,279
auctions I think you mentioned Amazon
759
00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:15,640
auctions yeah we're in Pittsburgh we
760
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:18,279
have a place called mac. bid and they
761
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:21,399
they just buy it would it it kind of
762
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:24,640
grosses you out when you see like an old
763
00:28:21,399 --> 00:28:27,559
Sears building just filled wall to--all
764
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,960
with pallets of Amazon returns and this
765
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:31,720
company buys all these they buy I don't
766
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,200
know how many palletes thou when I tell
767
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,880
you thousands of pallets they're buying
768
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,480
thousands of pallets of Amazon returns
769
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,559
they retag everything and then they
770
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,919
auction it off and so like these blue
771
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:44,559
chairs that you see behind me uh for the
772
00:28:42,919 --> 00:28:47,360
audio audience I'll just they're really
773
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:50,960
nice bar chairs they're like
774
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,720
um they they're $400 retail that I got
775
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,240
for $75 so the chairs on my stage were
776
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,840
$75 that would have been $400 in that
777
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,799
table I got an auction for $20
778
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,720
that's a $100 table so right there
779
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:07,320
instead of spending $500 I spend a 100
780
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,240
so I reduce my expenses of Furnishing
781
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:13,039
this theater easily by 80% on the stage
782
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,240
that you're looking at right now and and
783
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:17,399
that was I mean that was a a a strategy
784
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,559
and I know that there's these type of
785
00:29:17,399 --> 00:29:21,760
auction places all over the country but
786
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:24,799
the one we have has about 10 locations
787
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:28,240
and Pennsylvania Ohio I think maybe even
788
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,760
West Virginia and that strategy of I
789
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,399
don't have to buy this brand new on
790
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,919
Amazon I could try to get it for 20% of
791
00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:37,919
the retail price if it's a if it's a
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loser or a dud I can try again and I'm
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only at 40% of the retail price so you
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know my goal was you know take take
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swings of the bat like a baseball player
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the more times a bat the more times you
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get a home run and there was nothing
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that was a loser bid everything I bought
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worked out and I I I know I saved $ four
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to $5,000 by buying through just buying
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returns Amazon returns that's the way to
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do it and and amazing so I I want to ask
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you one more question about the people
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who are like digital podcasters who are
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starting like you have a lot of
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experience meeting different podcasters
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from different you know types of shows
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if somebody doesn't know what type of
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topic they want to talk about but they
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want to start a podcast how would you
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tell them to you know how would you give
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them advice on how to find that
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topic yeah research you know uh what I
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would look at what what do you look at
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what what is your algorithm sharing with
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you like like Facebook knows you maybe a
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little bit better Tik Tok knows you
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maybe a little bit better than Facebook
819
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you know Instagram is probably showing
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you things that you have interest in so
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you know look at your expertise do you
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have anything that you talk about your
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with your friends all the time or your
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friends come to you with questions like
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you know how do I fix this or I'm trying
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to build a website you're the person
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that knows how to build a website or how
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to optimize you know for the search
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results if you have some sort of skill
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that people ask you that's probably a
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way to start that's probably a place to
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start if you have interest in you know
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that every Thursday night you go down to
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there's maybe a board gaming store and
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and you play I don't know what board
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like like sellers of Katon for some
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reason and you're a board game
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Enthusiast you know then maybe board
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games are something you want to talk
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about you know strategy me for me I
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wanted to do I just I always like to do
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everything I do seems to be a game show
843
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so like you know for me I chose trivia
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and that was that's a lot that's a lot
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of fun for me it's a hangout I get to
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hang with people get to goof around ask
847
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questions so you know look at just look
848
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around you start there start with what
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do you do on the weekends do you go to
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like apple orchards do you go you know
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this is time of year to go to apple
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orchards are you do you go to a lot of
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food places maybe you're some sort of
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critic you don't know about you know
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start making lists of things you really
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like things that you talk about all the
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time and just see what see what bubbles
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to the top see what you really get
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comfortable with that's great advice so
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what is next for the listening audience
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that maybe wants to see what kind of
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programming you have coming up um what
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kind of shows do you have coming up that
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people can tune into yeah we just
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relaunched rise and out shine if it's
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almost like Star Search for podcasts
867
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where a show comes on every week and
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they do 10 minutes of their show and
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while they're doing it here comes that
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game show element again the folks at
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home are pulling up their phone and
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they're scoring the podcast that they're
873
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listening to On You Know audio quality
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or how are the host are they engaging
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does the content that they're delivering
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match the description they gave us at
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the beginning of the show that's a big
878
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,919
thing a lot of people will say you know
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hey my show is about such and such and
880
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:51,760
then they spend 30 minutes talking about
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their grocery shopping on Saturday it
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didn't match the expectation so we're
883
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looking at all these little features and
884
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then the people at home and the judges
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which I have two co-hosts for that show
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we are typing stream of conscious words
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and we're building this giant word cloud
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to go over at the end of the show so you
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know was it inspirational funny people
890
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typ in quotes that they that they heard
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during the podcast and they and we go
892
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over all this this is what people felt
893
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and thought and heard while they
894
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,480
listened to your show so that's a really
895
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,840
fun show to and we're and again that
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Rising tid LIF Sol ship this is all done
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with love and respect and all we want to
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do is maybe your audio quality was a
899
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little bit off we'll talk about that and
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00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:37,679
we'll see how can we help you make make
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a a podcast with better audio the next
902
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:41,880
time you're out and so we we're doing
903
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,519
all this to again you know lift All
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Ships that Rising
905
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,039
tide we have some sports shows that
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00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,399
we're in talk with that are going to
907
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,960
maybe do some you know shows because
908
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we're a big Steeler country out here in
909
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,840
Pittsburgh so that Pittsburgh is full of
910
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,559
sports podcasts uh we have some horror
911
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like horror movies coming up up the we
912
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got some other things along with my
913
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trivia show that we're doing two times a
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month I have a budoir convention coming
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up with photography and women's
916
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:12,440
empowerment and encouragement that's U
917
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,639
being produced by a friend of mine
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Melissa Jackson that'll be in February
919
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:20,079
so all like really the the multi-purpose
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00:34:18,359 --> 00:34:21,720
ability of this stage is is just
921
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:25,359
bringing in people from all over the
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place that's fantastic so I think we're
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we're almost at time so I I just want to
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ask
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uh well I guess wait I I can't leave it
926
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without asking this other question when
927
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people interact with your app it is it
928
00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:39,000
an application or is it it's a website
929
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,359
like how do people do that you said that
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it was interactive from the audience
931
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perspective sure all everything is web-
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based and we stream with accessibility
933
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,879
in mind so I even have a page on the
934
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,240
website how do we stream with
935
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:53,440
accessibility and I show you how to use
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our the video live stream to get real
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time close
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captioning sorry about that I got a
939
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little tickle tonight that's
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okay um and the app I use is a program
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called mam
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meter it's mti.com whenever you're on
943
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the app and you can scan it there's a QR
944
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,760
code you and it pulls up like PowerPoint
945
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,880
slides kind of and they're fully
946
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,040
interactive I do the trivia the same way
947
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there's you know four options you pick
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an A B C or D and you know you're
949
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playing on your phone all web base
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00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,520
there's no need to download any apps and
951
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,839
uh you could just do it right on your
952
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,640
phone it's it's it's it's it's it's so
953
00:35:28,839 --> 00:35:33,720
much fun it's so the goal is to be
954
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simple right keep it simple and you know
955
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have somebody just pull up their phone
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and scan a QR code or or type in a short
957
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code is very easy and anybody can do
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that and you know that's the goal I
959
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480
don't want I don't want to pause the
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00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,400
show for five minutes to try to teach
961
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everybody how to download an app how to
962
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,119
create an account we we don't have time
963
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:56,200
we got to keep the show moving and you
964
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know using those types of tools helps us
965
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,880
do that helps us make it it accessible
966
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for everybody makes it easy nobody has
967
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,839
to feel silly because you know they have
968
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,000
to follow nine steps to be able to
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00:36:04,839 --> 00:36:09,079
participate it's scan and go and you're
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in oh yeah that's that's critical for
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growing the audience you know making it
972
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as easy as possible for people to get
973
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from the point when they sign up to the
974
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point when they're having fun on the app
975
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which is what you want them to do so
976
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incredible so is there anything that you
977
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want to uh you know close out the show
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with any parting
979
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,800
words no again I like I said I love
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00:36:26,359 --> 00:36:30,800
talking about this and if you're the the
981
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,359
question two questions ago if you're on
982
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,960
the fence or you're trying to think
983
00:36:32,359 --> 00:36:36,839
about what can I do what can I create
984
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,960
I'd love to just talk to you I do this
985
00:36:36,839 --> 00:36:42,280
all the time I I I sit down with people
986
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,920
half an hour 45 minutes we'll just talk
987
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about it you don't have to come to my
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theater you don't have to do a live show
989
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maybe you'll take my advice and launch a
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podcast and then you'll come on my star
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search rise and outshine show in a month
992
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,440
or two that'd be great I'd love to have
993
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,640
you as a guest so what's the best way
994
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for people to contact you sure you can
995
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reach me at Jeff pti.com that's pretty
996
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,760
easy I'm on LinkedIn fairly active uh
997
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you can find Jeff rilla rev i l a just
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search me on LinkedIn I think I'm the
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only Jeff R Villa so I should pop right
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up for you fantastic and for the
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listening audience do not forget to go
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to our social media because we will be
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sharing those pictures before and after
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the theater and also reposting the video
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that Jee was talking about where he was
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going through the process of creating
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the theater so I would definitely repost
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that video very excited to see it so Jee
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thank you so much for being here today I
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00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:36,960
really appreciate it love what you're
1011
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:36,960
doing thank you this was so much fun